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	<title>Comments on: Should I dress as Sound Hitler or Sound Pol Pot?</title>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-1638</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nick for your insights. I just reread your entire piece and all of the comments. I want to add that my criticisms here are not addressed to anyone on this page or associated with any particular sound company and/or theater production.

My criticisms are generally  directed to the trend of ruinous over-amplification, especially in famous nightclubs and 
at many indoor and  outdoor concert venues.
 
Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Nick for your insights. I just reread your entire piece and all of the comments. I want to add that my criticisms here are not addressed to anyone on this page or associated with any particular sound company and/or theater production.</p>
<p>My criticisms are generally  directed to the trend of ruinous over-amplification, especially in famous nightclubs and<br />
at many indoor and  outdoor concert venues.</p>
<p>Rock on!</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen MDQ as of yet. I may when it comes to NYC.

I&#039;m a long time guitarist. Played in 1960&#039;s and 1970&#039;s creative rock bands
as well as in Country and western bands I currently perform and am hoping to work large arenas, YES, with massive controlled sound systems.

I worked personally with the songwriter  Otis Blackwell during his early 1980&#039;s comeback. Otis wrote Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis early rock and roll hits. Don&#039;t Be Cruel, All Shook Up, Great Balls Of Fire, etc. 

With Otis&#039; band we had our own individual stage amps and a PA system. we had a strong sound for the rocker numbers and a sweet touching lower volume feel for the love ballads. We controlled most of our individual volume not by amplifiers but by our nuanced handling of our individual instruments. Otis did the same with his singing volume - natural control first and mics and amplifiers second.

The last decade I have heard countless live stage concerts and night club shows ruined by over amplification, mainly by the show&#039;s producer and the sound people. The new house PA equipment these days pushes huge amounts of sound- especially over- amplified bass and drums. It&#039;s totally out of control and a complete disaster.

I&#039;ve witnessed this at family fairs and festivals as well as indoors in famous nightclubs.

I pity MDQ if they go for amplified overkill which the new concert house and nightclub sound systems seem to be doing.

I have yet to meet many sound-men or sound-women that I can respect. These are not artists or performers or musicians, they are technicians wrapped up in ever-spiraling volume peaks and spikes to achieve a sense of loud realism which 90% of commercial shows can exist much much better without.

Early rock and roll and rockabilly needs extra edge and volume but medium sized stage amps and a decent house PA utilizing the natural theater acoustics can be more than enough.

This is authentic for that early Sun Records period and era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen MDQ as of yet. I may when it comes to NYC.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a long time guitarist. Played in 1960&#8242;s and 1970&#8242;s creative rock bands<br />
as well as in Country and western bands I currently perform and am hoping to work large arenas, YES, with massive controlled sound systems.</p>
<p>I worked personally with the songwriter  Otis Blackwell during his early 1980&#8242;s comeback. Otis wrote Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis early rock and roll hits. Don&#8217;t Be Cruel, All Shook Up, Great Balls Of Fire, etc. </p>
<p>With Otis&#8217; band we had our own individual stage amps and a PA system. we had a strong sound for the rocker numbers and a sweet touching lower volume feel for the love ballads. We controlled most of our individual volume not by amplifiers but by our nuanced handling of our individual instruments. Otis did the same with his singing volume &#8211; natural control first and mics and amplifiers second.</p>
<p>The last decade I have heard countless live stage concerts and night club shows ruined by over amplification, mainly by the show&#8217;s producer and the sound people. The new house PA equipment these days pushes huge amounts of sound- especially over- amplified bass and drums. It&#8217;s totally out of control and a complete disaster.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve witnessed this at family fairs and festivals as well as indoors in famous nightclubs.</p>
<p>I pity MDQ if they go for amplified overkill which the new concert house and nightclub sound systems seem to be doing.</p>
<p>I have yet to meet many sound-men or sound-women that I can respect. These are not artists or performers or musicians, they are technicians wrapped up in ever-spiraling volume peaks and spikes to achieve a sense of loud realism which 90% of commercial shows can exist much much better without.</p>
<p>Early rock and roll and rockabilly needs extra edge and volume but medium sized stage amps and a decent house PA utilizing the natural theater acoustics can be more than enough.</p>
<p>This is authentic for that early Sun Records period and era.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Keenan</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-1019</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Anthony.  I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the mix for Jersey Boys, that&#039;s mixed by my pal Chad Parsley, who actually taught me how to mix down in Dallas.

I haven&#039;t mixed MDQ since it moved over to the Apollo, so I can&#039;t speak to the acoustics there, but I would say:  The performers themselves are worth braving the amplification to see them work their stuff.  They all - and in particular, Levi Kreis, who plays Jerry Lee Lewis - are forces of nature in that show.  If you&#039;re worried, bring ear plugs, (I have a link to some nice attenuating ear plugs somewhere on this blog)... 

But see it.

The odd thing about MDQ is that yes, it&#039;s not really a recreation of that night, but in someways it&#039;s something that I think is more engaging to a modern audience -while not true to the acoustic dramaturgy, it avoids becoming a lifeless museum piece.  It is true to the energy of that moment in time, so that the boomers who lived that music &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; their children can both appreciate what it felt like to have music shift and change so suddenly.  Before running that show, I couldn&#039;t stand Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and yes - had never &lt;i&gt;heard&lt;/i&gt; of Carl Perkins.  Now, after being in that show, I get it.  I get what they did to music.  And it was the show, not the music as written on the page, that made it click for me. 

I rarely say this about commercial theater, and I&#039;m saying this after MDQ has stopped paying my salary, but: it really is worth the price of admission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Anthony.  I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the mix for Jersey Boys, that&#8217;s mixed by my pal Chad Parsley, who actually taught me how to mix down in Dallas.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t mixed MDQ since it moved over to the Apollo, so I can&#8217;t speak to the acoustics there, but I would say:  The performers themselves are worth braving the amplification to see them work their stuff.  They all &#8211; and in particular, Levi Kreis, who plays Jerry Lee Lewis &#8211; are forces of nature in that show.  If you&#8217;re worried, bring ear plugs, (I have a link to some nice attenuating ear plugs somewhere on this blog)&#8230; </p>
<p>But see it.</p>
<p>The odd thing about MDQ is that yes, it&#8217;s not really a recreation of that night, but in someways it&#8217;s something that I think is more engaging to a modern audience -while not true to the acoustic dramaturgy, it avoids becoming a lifeless museum piece.  It is true to the energy of that moment in time, so that the boomers who lived that music <i>and</i> their children can both appreciate what it felt like to have music shift and change so suddenly.  Before running that show, I couldn&#8217;t stand Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis, and yes &#8211; had never <i>heard</i> of Carl Perkins.  Now, after being in that show, I get it.  I get what they did to music.  And it was the show, not the music as written on the page, that made it click for me. </p>
<p>I rarely say this about commercial theater, and I&#8217;m saying this after MDQ has stopped paying my salary, but: it really is worth the price of admission.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for reminding us not to shoot the messenger, and taking the time to do it so eloquently.  I&#039;m a musician and do what the music director wants whether it matches my style or not, just as the sound engineer follows his instructions.  That said, I decided long ago that I want to keep my hearing as long as possible, and getting blasted at high dB levels will go against that goal.  I just saw Jersey Boys, which was amplified high enough to deliver the right sound, but also low enough that I could understand all of the words and did not leave with my ears ringing.

Like the Jersey Boys, the musicians in the Million Dollar Quartet did not use AC/DC level amplification, and nor should a tribute.  This show was on my to see list, but after reading about &quot;amplification that distorts the music, assaults the audience ..., and sends you home with a tinny ringing in your ears&quot; I&#039;m thinking maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for reminding us not to shoot the messenger, and taking the time to do it so eloquently.  I&#8217;m a musician and do what the music director wants whether it matches my style or not, just as the sound engineer follows his instructions.  That said, I decided long ago that I want to keep my hearing as long as possible, and getting blasted at high dB levels will go against that goal.  I just saw Jersey Boys, which was amplified high enough to deliver the right sound, but also low enough that I could understand all of the words and did not leave with my ears ringing.</p>
<p>Like the Jersey Boys, the musicians in the Million Dollar Quartet did not use AC/DC level amplification, and nor should a tribute.  This show was on my to see list, but after reading about &#8220;amplification that distorts the music, assaults the audience &#8230;, and sends you home with a tinny ringing in your ears&#8221; I&#8217;m thinking maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Here&#8217;s a To Do List for Us. &#124; Theater For The Future</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-655</link>
		<dc:creator>Here&#8217;s a To Do List for Us. &#124; Theater For The Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the print media - and unfortunately by extension all journalism - is in trouble, and it&#8217;s our fault. You can say that ultimately our fresh perspectives are a good thing, but losing quality journalism [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the print media &#8211; and unfortunately by extension all journalism &#8211; is in trouble, and it&#8217;s our fault. You can say that ultimately our fresh perspectives are a good thing, but losing quality journalism [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sonic Boom &#124; Theater For The Future</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>Sonic Boom &#124; Theater For The Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] email from a reader of the Chicago Reader - which just published this article from Deanna Isaacs on our recent discussion about wireless mics and sound volume trends in theater over the past decade or [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] email from a reader of the Chicago Reader &#8211; which just published this article from Deanna Isaacs on our recent discussion about wireless mics and sound volume trends in theater over the past decade or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: nick keenan</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-600</link>
		<dc:creator>nick keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Deanna, and thanks for bringing the subject up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Deanna, and thanks for bringing the subject up!</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna Isaacs</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-599</link>
		<dc:creator>Deanna Isaacs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick -- My apologies, and thank you for a fascinating response!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick &#8212; My apologies, and thank you for a fascinating response!</p>
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		<title>By: nick keenan</title>
		<link>http://theaterforthefuture.com/should-i-dress-as-sound-hitler-or-sound-pol-pot/comment-page-1/#comment-596</link>
		<dc:creator>nick keenan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wonder though...   How could relative volume levels be used as a way to give audience members who care about active listening more choice in the theater they go to?   Does volume need to be more clearly indicated in marketing or in info?  (because there is rock n roll and then there is ROCK, and there&#039;s opera and I&#039;m sure there&#039;s a market for all three)?   I&#039;m interested in hearing how audience members would like to be able to make that choice when choosing how to spend their evening.   Does it mean we need &quot;quiet companies&quot; in the theater scene that only do transparent reinforcement and subtle designs?   I do enjoy designing for an active ear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder though&#8230;   How could relative volume levels be used as a way to give audience members who care about active listening more choice in the theater they go to?   Does volume need to be more clearly indicated in marketing or in info?  (because there is rock n roll and then there is ROCK, and there&#8217;s opera and I&#8217;m sure there&#8217;s a market for all three)?   I&#8217;m interested in hearing how audience members would like to be able to make that choice when choosing how to spend their evening.   Does it mean we need &#8220;quiet companies&#8221; in the theater scene that only do transparent reinforcement and subtle designs?   I do enjoy designing for an active ear.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that Nick pointed out that this is not a Goodman production. However, even if it were, there is an obvious need for vocal amplification in this production. No matter how much an actor has been trained to project, I can&#039;t think of a single one who could have their voice heard over an on-stage rock and roll band with pickups and amplifiers. The discussion of whether or not amplification is needed in general, while certainly a necessary and interesting one, is completely moot when applied to this show and Deanna&#039;s criticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that Nick pointed out that this is not a Goodman production. However, even if it were, there is an obvious need for vocal amplification in this production. No matter how much an actor has been trained to project, I can&#8217;t think of a single one who could have their voice heard over an on-stage rock and roll band with pickups and amplifiers. The discussion of whether or not amplification is needed in general, while certainly a necessary and interesting one, is completely moot when applied to this show and Deanna&#8217;s criticism.</p>
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